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Interview with: Rob Leydon, Matt Helm, Panos Theodoropoulous
Conducted by: T.V.
Red Sun Revival, an English gothic rock band that marked the scene two years ago with their fascinating debut album Running From The Dawn are finally back among us with a brand new EP entitled Embers (read a review HERE), which was released by their new signing, the German label Echozone. With this release the band shows even more melancholic side of theirs and are masters in creating enthusing gothic atmospheres. It's irrelevant to write more facts about this band which captivated the fans of gothic rock in a big way and I'm sure that each one of you already knows all that. 2015 should be another milestone for the band's history because they are about to release their sophomore album and we're all for sure eagerly awaiting that to happen. Rob Leydon (vocals, programming), Matt Helm (guitar), Christina Emery (violin) and Panos Theodoropoulous (bass guitar) are the names of musicians behind the name Red Sun Revival, each one with a lot of experiences from before and the three guys were very kind to answer my curious questions about what's going on in the camp of Red Sun Revival right now, what are their future plans, about their past endeavours, live experiences and much more.
T.V.: I can't find the words to tell you how much I waited for the new Red Sun Revival release as Running From The Dawn was one of the albums that I was playing the most in the last two years, and here it is the new EP. Tell me how are you satisfied with the result?
Rob: Thank you very much, I'm delighted to hear how much you enjoyed Running From The Dawn. The EP is a little different from our debut album, with perhaps more melancholy themes, and reflects a certain set of feelings which I had at the time of the EPs composition. I'm very satisfied with the result, the song-writting has developed since the first album, the the songs now feature live drums, courtesy of Simon Rippin.
T.V.: It seems that on new songs you've taken the most melancholic and tender parts out of the debut and yet improved them with rich and deep textures...
Rob: Yes, the EP is quite downbeat by comparison with the first album, and the subject matter is quite different. We felt that these four songs ought to be a release in their own right, rather than added to a second album. It is a bit of a 'concept' EP. We developed our style and craft, and whilst the next album is likely to be a lot more upbeat and energetic, we'll take our new learning and apply them in the future.
T.V: If I understand this right the lyrics and the concept of new EP are not that personal as it was on Running From The Dawn?
Rob: It's actually more personal, at least from my own perspective. The first album, Running From The Dawn deals with a fairly broad range of subject, some of which are personal with others being more general. The EP is a bit of a diary for me, charting some personal events that occured mainly in 2012, which were at the time difficult to deal with. The EP is an exploration of the different stages of what was something of a difficult time.
Matt: I agree - If you look at the lyrics of "Mistakes" and "Broken", and everything about the song "Embers", there's a lot of emotion there. Even though Rob wrote the songs I think we can all relate to the things he went through and put into those songs.
Panos: I will agree with Rob and Matt. The lyrics that Rob wrote for our EP seem more personal and quite emotional as well.
T.V.: Ok, I see, and from that point is even more introvert, but can you be a little bit more concrete about those things that were going on that year?
Rob: I don't know that I want to go into specifics, I think the songs tell that story better than I can right here. A lot of things changed at that time, leaving a big empty space, and it changed my perspective on life quite a lot. It was a period of painful adjustment, after loosing some very important things in my life. Replacing them was, and is difficult, but writing music plays a big part in filling that void.
T.V.: I understand you. Recently you announced that you shot a video clip for the song "Mistakes". Can you tell us a bit more about that?
Rob: Yes, our good friend Gabriel Edvy from Blackswitch labs has recorded and edited a wonderful video for "Mistakes", which we hope to be in a position to make it available very soon. The video features some really stunning imagery from an on-location shot in the Dorset coast, and a great live performance in the studio. I think it's going to a really beautiful and enchanting video.
Matt: Yes, Gabriel has done some fantastic work. We don't want to give too much away but it's a great concept and I think it's going to look stunning.
T.V.: Does the video follow the lyrical thematics of the song?
Rob: For our first video, "My Child", the video very much followed the lyrical themes in the song, and we're all very happy with the outcome from that shot. This time, we wanted to approach thing a bit differently, and create a visual tapestry onto which the viewer can project his or her own ideas about the song. In this respect, I think the video for "Mistakes" is a little more mature and subtle in it's way of dealing with the subject matter.
Matt: I remember sitting on a plane flying to a gig and Rob wrote out the lyrics of "Mistakes" for me so that we could try to come up with something for the video. However, over the course of the flight we decided that making something too literal would detract from the whole thing. Instead we wanted something that would capture the mood, ambience and feeling of the song without trying to 'tell the story' too obviously. Then Gabriel came up with some brilliant visual ideas and we got started.
T.V.: How much of a team work is the compositional aspect? Are all of the members involved in the creation of music?
Rob: In the early stages of the band, I have already composed most of the material before the others became involved. This is starting to change now, and I think that's a positive development. On the EP, Panos and I jointly composed "Embers" and largely one evening. Panos also wrote the bassline for "Surrender". On the next album, I'm hoping that we can have more even contributions all around.
Panos: As Rob said. In our first album all of the songs were already composed by him. From the EP onwards we have started to colaborate in the composition of some of the songs and we have already spent quite a lot of evenings playing together, exchanging ideas. I think that we can write quite well together.
T.V.: Do you guys share the same ideas and cherish the same things in music? Is there any kind of an argument going on in the rehearseal room?
Rob: I think that outside of Red Sun Revival we all have quite different tastes. However, having been in quite a lot of bands, I can honestly say that I've never been in a band which argued less! I don't think our musical differences really affect what we do in this band.
Panos: I think we all have our own influences and different paths in music as individuals. But in Red Sun Revival we have points that unite and bind the four of us quite well together. There are no arguments and no reasons for any to develop.
Matt: We all have some central common ground in what we like - the well known original Goth bands. Beyond that there's a lot of diversity in our tastes, but I see that as a good thing. It means we can all bring different influences and ideas to the band which can only be healthy.
T.V.: That's good to hear. I think that most of people who follow gothic rock already know everything about Rob's past endeavours, but not much is known about the rest of you guys?
Matt: Well I got my break in 2009 when Tim Chandler of Manuskript asked me to join his band Pretentious, Moi? which he was putting together to play his own songs. They're a great band that I still play with today. Tim introduced me to Rob when he heard Rob needed a guitarist for his own project, and the rest is history. Outside of the goth scene I'm a session guitarist and guitar teacher. Goth is 'home' for me though, and I love being able to play for my scene in the two bands I'm in.
Panos: I started playing bass many years back in Greece and have been involved in different bands since then. I still like to play different kinds of music and be as productive as possible so I am still involved in different projects at the moment. Both in Greece and in London. Red Sun Revival keep me quite busy this period and I am committed to the band. But I think all four of us still try to play as much music as possible outside of the band as weel. Some of the bands that I am involved at the moment are: Clouds By NIght, The Mayors, and Rottviolent. All playing different kinds of rock music.
T.V.: Huh, I know almost all those names you are mentioning. But I wonder if is music your only preocupation in life and do you earn enough for living out of it?
Rob: I don't think it's possible for bands to make a living out of it these days, certainly not at our level. We'd have to sell in the tens, maybe hundreds of thousands of units before such a thing was possible. The costs involved are also high, in terms of equipment, studio costs, pressing, and marketing. I work as a research scientist to pay the bills and keep a roof over my head.
Panos: Personally I am not earning my living from music. Music is a love affair for me and although I am involved in it in a professional level, it is still a difficult sector. Especially if you are in the sector with a band... I need my everyday job to keep me going with this love affair.
Matt: I do make my living from music, but it's mostly through teaching, shows and sessions, not from playing original music, especially not in the alternative scene. I'm lucky that I enjoy playing almost any kind of music. It's a tough living, challenging but a lot of fun.
Red Sun Revival links: Official Website, Facebook