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Interview with: Dis Pater
Conducted by: T.V.
It's not that often that an album gets a perfect score 10 out of 10 points here at Terra Relicta, but Midnight Odyssey's recently released masterpiece Shards Of Silver Fade (read a review over HERE), also Terra Relicta's album of the month June 2015, actually a double album with more than 140 minutes of extremely seductive, adventurous, cold and epic atmospheric ambient black/doom metal is worth all of the possible praise from lovers of such music and sounds. Midniht Odyssey is an one-man band coming from Brisbane (Australia), formed in 2007 by the mastermind Dis Pater who is known as well from now defunct acts, the funeral doom band Tempestuous Fall and dark wave outfit The Crevices Below. Midnight Odyssey's debut album named Funerals From The Astral Sphere, which was released in 2011, has already become a cult release and is today cherished as one of the finest examples of atmospheric/ambient black metal, but with the new offering, Shards Of Silver Fade, which saw the light of the world this June through I, Voidhanger Records, Dis Pater is certainly going to break new grounds and impose the Australian act on a wider audience, independently from metal sub-genres and styles. After listening to the magnificient work of art such is Shards Of Silver Fade I knew that I had to know more things about this phenomena named Midnight Odyssey and Dis Pater was willing to answer to my questions and explained a lot of things behind his creations, yet he gave us an insight into his observations about the world, society and musical scene.
T.V.: First of all congratulations for making such a great album like it is Shards Of Silver Fade! I wonder how do you feel about it now few weeks after it's officially released?
Dis Pater: Thank you. I feel relieved. When working on an album, I hear it so many times that it becomes old and I want to move on from it, so by the time it actually comes out, I don't know how people will react to it. In the end, I think it something I am extremely proud of, but mainly, it is just a weight off my shoulders to have it out there for people to listen to!
T.V.: As well Midnight Odyssey's previous album, Funerals From The Astral Sphere, was a fantastic album, and I'm interested where are the major differencies in your opinion?
Dis Pater: I think the major differences lies in how I constructed the songs. Funerals From The Astral Sphere was more about a journey as a whole, thus there were shorter songs and longer songs. This album I treated each song as a separate journey, almost like a chapter of a story. I wanted to expand the ambient or keyboard only bits to be a little more dominant in this album.
T.V.: Even if the album got mainly really excellent and very positive reviews, I found out that it's difficult for releases like this to find the right audience. Most of those who listen to black metal say it's too much emotional, based on synths and lush atmospheres, on the other hand those who are into dark wave, ambient and atmospheric music say it's too extreme. Do you have in your head kind of a picture who are the true lovers and devoted fans of such artistic work?
Dis Pater: Yes the reviews have mostly been pretty incredible. I don’t take reviews too seriously, but when a few people begin to give you really good remarks about the album it does make you feel that people understand what you are trying to do. I only try to write music that is honest to myself and reflects how I feel at the time. I love both aspects of raging black metal and more dreamy dark wave or ambient types, and to me that represents who I am. I have no interest in just releasing an album that totally resembles Darkthrone, or an album that totally resembles something else, as my personalities don’t seem to allow me to feel the same way for very long. I guess everyone is different, but I don’t really have much of a break down of who these people are or what they do, and it really doesn’t matter to me what they do or who they are, if they like the music, and it resonates with them, then that is all that matters.
T.V.: Can you tell us more about the concept and meaning behind the album? From where did the inspiration came?
Dis Pater: It was so long ago it is hard to remember correctly! I had an image in my head of a frozen wasteland in space. Something where life once dwelt, but now is cold and dead. The album is primarily based around this concept. The great astral plain is a vessel in which life and death are tied to one another. One does not exist without the other. I wanted to tie this in together, the songs are melancholic, but not despairingly hopeless, in the sense that death is just a natural progression for everything. Inspiration is something that comes to me in many different forms. Usually, it comes as a reaction to something that offends me, and luckily for me nearly everything in today's world offends me. There is very little hope in my eyes, I see war around the corner, I see a fight for dwindling food supplies and fresh water. Is it unusual, but I find the idea of cold and dead world far more soothing for my mind and soul than in the realm of where living things dwell.
T.V.: Those are the themes that I find pretty intriguing as well. Do you think that the way the world and society turns today is the natural movement of things or is this kind of a consequence because of a greed of so called "privileged" ones?
Dis Pater: I believe humanity has always existed on the whims of those in power, and the struggles of those who aren’t. I don’t think it’s a consequence, I just think it is human nature. The powerful want power, the poor just want to live and be happy. Power corrupts man, but only so far as the corruption that is already present in the human psyche. I think it is a natural movement, a continuation, survival takes over. When times become desperate, we see this natural instinct resurface. I think it would be smarter for people to understand that the more you have, the more you set to lose. Nothing is forever.
T.V.: Shards Of Silver Fade was released through I, Voidhanger Records. How did you get in touch with them? And was there at that time no interest from any of major or bigger labels to sign Midnight Odyssey?
Dis Pater: I, Voidhanger Records has been my main label since 2010 when they re-released the demo Firmament. The label contacted me through e-mail, I don't know how exactly they found my music, so it is something I consider extremely fortunate. Other labels have contacted me, but no bigger labels. To be honest, I would most likely turn them all down as I, Voidhanger is such a great label. The music and bands they release are exciting and groundbreaking, and they are honest and hard working. It's wonderful to have a label who cares deeply for your own music and pushes you to do bigger and better things.
T.V.: That's good to hear! You say that they push you "to do bigger and better things" and I want to dig a bit deeper, so I'm asking you how this looks like in reality? On the other side many bands are complaining today that most of the labels are nothing but kind of exploiters. So, you must be really pretty lucky…
Dis Pater: I think I am extremely lucky. I have always thought it fortunate that someone on the other side of the world found my music out of the thousands of bands and chose me. There’s no need to be high and mighty about it, it was really just down to luck. Digging deeper? Well, the song you hear on the album is not the first take. It is usually re-worked, re-recorded, over and over again. This is the advantage of being a one man band. I usually send a song to them and let them know where the writing is at. They respond saying they either love it or that they think it could be better. Apart from myself, there is no one else that means more to please. So I usually go back, sometimes ditch a song completely. I wish a lot of one man bands didn’t just stick everything they ever record onto a demo tape or Bandcamp or whatever.
T.V.: There's so much going on musically on this album and the recording process effort must have been a real chalenge, wasn't it?
Dis Pater: It's not so much a challenge, it just takes a long time. Each song has a ridiculous amount of tracks and layers to it, all with effects. I know what I want out of each track and so I spend time getting the most out of it. I know how I want it to sound, so until I find the perfect mix I am never happy and still changing tracks days before the album is due to be sent to press. I don't push myself to work on a time frame, when it happens, it just ends up happening. If I try to force it it never works. I have to be absolutely one hundred percent invested in the music before I will even try to record or change things. I rid myself of distractions, which also includes eating and sleeping at times. I've learnt over the years to wait until I am in this trance like state, or maybe more correctly, an obsessive state where the music is all that matters.
I hear of ancient people
Whose whispers have grown
But no one shall listen
They remain unknown
Their words speak of anger
And the end of our time
No one will heed them
They rashly decline
Midnight Odyssey links: Official website, Facebook, Bandcamp