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Interview with: Carfax Haddo
Conducted by: T.V.
Last Dusk, one of the driving forces of Costa Rican goth music scene recently released their long anticipated debut album titled Memento Mori. The album is for now self-released and available only in digital format, but things are about to change as Last Dusk inked a deal with Deepland Records from Brazil. The band was formed out of the ashes of the mythic band Draconian Incubus by well know figure inside goth rock scene, Carfax Haddo, in 2010. They debuted with the EP named Trismegistus in 2012, but due to some very bad luck with line-up and by finding really devoted members the band was in some kind of a strange stance, with only two members Carfax and drummer Stephanie Sabat remaining, but soon the things changed and the band finally got stable in early 2016 when bassist Javier MT and guitarist Melissa MT joined the band. Now it seems that there are no obstacles for Last Dusk and this band which is truly breathing the essence of goth rock, everything dark and horrific, will only get bigger if the chemistry inside remains like it's now. Last Dusk are a must for every true fan of anything tinged gothic and if you haven't already heard of them than shame on you, they are not bringing anything new into the genre, rather than that they are on a mission to discover where are the limits of true, dark and unpretentious goth music. I had to ask Carfax Haddo about some details about their debut album, but as you'll read the conversation went in many other directions. Discover everything about Last Dusk in this in-depth interview.
T.V.: Hi Carfax! The debut album is finally out! Congratulations! But, I wonder why it took you over six years since you formed Last Dusk to release it?
Carfax: Hello Tomaz, thanks for the honouring and for your interest. I had to surpass some "obstacles" and reform the band several times before finding the closest sound to that I'm chasing, also at the begging Last Dusk was projected to be only a studio band, then I heard the stage call therefore finding musicians to play in this country is a hard task, at least for this kind of tunes, now after this release there´s no stop.
T.V.: You've choosen quite a significant title for album, Memento Mori. Ok, it was used by other bands before, but tell me, is the primal idea and message behind the album to make the listener aware of his mortality?
Carfax: Yes indeed I took an old idea, a primal fear that we all use to forget or disregard, an idea that no one can escape, it was haunting me and I needed to reconcile, is not only about mortality is about vitality too of course, it´s all about the fleeting nature of life, this concept emerged after personal experiences and logic and growing up, it is indeed the primal idea of this album, the message goes to the listener and the performer at the same time, despite legends and myths are fascinating, we are not vampires nor gods.
T.V.: I was quite impressed by the cover artwork as well, pretty intriguing and I believe that there's a hidden message in it which must be in some kind of a connotation with lyrics. What can you tell me about that?
Carfax: This cover art is actually stolen and used without permission, I simply took it and used it, not with intention to annoy or offend the author, I got impressed too by this piece and is because the admiration I have for Joel-Peter Witkin (censored and copied thousands of times…even in my country by local artists) this artist whom I´ve never met in person or never contacted in my life, to me in his work is embodied everything I wanted to express in the album, yes you can say “embodied” cause those are real human body parts captured in his camera, the hidden message is obvious at the same time.
T.V.: But the initial version of the cover artwork, the one with skulls when the album was announced, was a different one. As well was the tracklist different. Why did you changed all that right before the album release?
Carfax: That is true and changes just happened and I hope it always happen that way, I am satisfied with final results and I'm glad we did not run too fast with the release.
T.V.: But still, on the first tracklist there were mentioned tracks like "Black Spider", "Crossroad", "Wanderlust" and "Babalon", which weren't present on the actual album. What happened with those tracks?
Carfax: Some of those tracks were only demos and they need to get finished and arranged, probably soon those tracks will see the light in another album or EP, and other were the alternative name of the actual tracks or studio "nicknames" instead of using just numbers.
T.V.: Ok, I understand! The album shows quite a progression if compared to your first EP Trismegistus which came out in 2012. You even made a new version of the track "Evocation", which originally appeared on that EP. Is this because you were not satisfied with the original one?
Carfax: Thank you, yes progression is the fuel for this band, I think the original one was too flat and boring and has those drum breaks which were too childish and warned from the chorus part, being honest it was disturbing to me, really needed to make a new version and save that lyric which was the first I wrote in my life... many many years ago.
T.V.: In times of Draconian Incubus? And how do you look back at those days?
Carfax: Yes I wrote "Evocation" lyrics in those days, we even made a version of it but never recorded it. I never look back at those days to be honest, I remember very few of it and I try to keep it as a long gone good memory. Anyway it was childhood and since then the warning of being mortal prevent me from living in the past, "old victories do not impress me anymore" (quoting the song "Oblivion").
T.V.: But still you can't deny that Draconian Incubus was one of most significant goth bands coming from Latin America and for many of us the first introduction in Costa Rican alternative scene. So, how would you compare Draconian Incubus with Last Dusk and where do you see main differences between those two bands?
Carfax: Yes indeed, Draconian Incubus was all that and more. I can´t really compare past to the present, would not be fair to any of bands, musically both bands have very different purposes, influences and environments, despite being in the same "genre", now that you ask, I can figure two different panoramas, I bet Draconian Incubus, - if still being alive - could be much more rich and mature in sound now, just like Ariel Maniki And The Black Halos, Psicosomática and Last Dusk are today, the other would be there´s a high probability that today´s Draconian Incubus could be stuck in a muddy comfort zone and fade into total oblivion.
T.V.: Ok, I see. Please tell me if Last Dusk finally got a stable line-up now, who are the members and what's the chemistry inside the band now?
Carfax: Finally we do, after learning to be really selective and demanding, here's the most prolific and eduring crew until now in this band, I'm very grateful to this guys, the proud family are: Stephanie Sabat (drums), my only love and hero, fearless warrior who believed in Last Dusk when rats left the ship right after they tried to sink it at the end of 2014, she is the incarnation of true Will and loyalty. Melissa MT (guitar), young and wide open minded musician, who appeared in the right and fair moment to rock us with her great skills and experience. Javier MT (bass), old and great friend, a polite gentleman who recommended us with his guitarist sister and after that he became our keyboard player and after that he finally got his real place. Bass playing is his speciality and to be honest he's the best bass player I ever played with.
T.V.: That's good to hear and I really hope that this line-up is permanent. If I remember well you were the bass player beside vocalist in the beginning. What changed your mind to concetrate only to vocal duties?
Carfax: I truly hope the same, yeah you have a good memory, I love bass playing, I started like that in music, but here I only wanted to move freely on stage, I miss the bass but I don't worry at all cause I know it is in the best hands now.
T.V.: And is the music of Last Dusk composed just by you or is a team work?
Carfax: It is a team work, some compositions are based on my sketches and some on theirs, always using my lyrics, fortunately we all are always full of new and old ideas and own repertories to share. Also some songs came from thin air at the studio, i.e. "There's A Thing In The Garden...", which started with Stephanie drumming latin bolero and Ariel at bass jamming live in studio and all I had to do was just the lyrics on my hand and then I started singing over their live playing, no cuts, one take and then we had this masterpiece at first play, we kept the track that way and months later Melissa jammed over that track, it was really magical how the thing that lives in that studio took living part on the song, a milestone moment in our history. And I can't forget to mention my friend DJ Mark Musolf, who I met at The Butler Pub in Reading during Sacrosact 2015 weekend, later I listened to his beautiful music and he gave us the oportunity to record his song "The Devil's Flower" as part of Memento Mori album, this song is Last Dusk's first collaboration and a perfect way to stay in real touch with this talented and beloved friend.
T.V.: Cool, "The Devil's Flower" is my favorite song on the album! But there's also a nice cover of Das Projekt' track "The Broken Altar". Is this Brazilian band an influence to you that you decided to make a cover song?
Carfax: Actually this awesome band is almost new to me, I learned about them maybe just 2 years ago and I love it, it happened that we had the honour being contacted directly by their singer Marcelo KPTA himself who invited us to be part of their 25th anniversary album. It was a challenge to us and we accepted of course, the final product went beyond my expectations.
T.V.: Indeed is a good thing this cover. Now, the goth rock music that Last Dusk plays is not an usual one. There's a notable presence of horror rock that adds some kind of a cinematic feel to it. From where does this influence come from? Are you a big fan of horror movies?
Carfax: Thank you, I'm my self a bit strange and unusual haha, yeah I am guilty of that "sin", I love old horror movies indeed, collect them of course, but who doesn't? They do have influence in my music and also horror tales and novels do, same as some acts as Jacula and Devil Doll, but I guess that is too obvious and predictable.
T.V.: I know that he was a member of Draconian Incubus of course. As you told me that he introduced you to goth music I wonder what really does the word "Goth" mean to you?
T.V.: Yes, just like everywhere. Last year you had a chance to play in Europe for the first time, on the prestigiuos Sacrosanct festival in UK. I think that was quite an experience for you?
T.V.: Hope to see you someday playing around Europe and of course in my vicinity. We talked a lot about different things around your band, now please tell me who is Carfax in private life?
the word in Costa Rica, once we made a release party for Meteora VII with raffles and I also spread their music in independant radios and my own radio show, which is difficult even for my own band, people are not used to this kind of music, we are monopolized by metal diffusion which I don't complain, metalheads in here are the best audience for all kind of obscure music, we just need to get in touch closer to them. Lodges format has changed and got centralized in one Grandlodge but I am still authorized to run Costa Rica Lodge and I will be running it while I am useful or until they want. I love not only their music, also all of their album concepts, it's all about certain things that always called my attention through old books, also Near Earth Orbit vision of the future got me on my chair border, to me seems to be all historically pararel to Garden Of Delight.