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Interview with: Anders Odden
Conducted by: T.V.
How many of you know the Norwegian band Magenta? One of the most overlooked and underrated electro/industrial/alternative/goth acts out there.... ok, let me start with Magenta's founder Anders Odden. Anders is a well known name to all those who follow the extreme metal scene, he's one of those persons who were involved in the first unholy wave of Scandinavian black/death metal. Multiinstrumentalist Anders took part of the scene since 1985 (!) and I believe that there's no death metal fan out there who doesn't know the name Cadaver; a band which was formed by him in 1988 and then splited up in 1993, then again reformed for a short time in 1999. But most of you should know him as the studio and live bass player for masters of Norwegian black metal - Satyricon. And that's far from everything, the Norwegian guy, born in Oslo on 20th December 1972, was recruited by Celtic Frost as a live guitarist in 2006 and toured with them all over the world on their Monotheist Tour. There are still other great bands in the extreme metal sector that could be associated with him, like Mayhem, Thy Abhorrent, Cadaver Inc., Baphomet, Braindead, and much more. But it was somewhere in 1992 when the way lead Anders into more electro-industrial waters as he joined one of the most popular Norwegian electro-rockers Apoptygma Berzerk, where he played bass and guitar until 1999 and from 2003 to 2006. For a short time in 2008 he even joined his friend Al Jourgensen and his mighty band Ministry as a live guitarist. But my interest this time goes to Magenta, a band creating as they describe it, "melodic lush music for people into the dark side and other freaks". Magenta was formed in the summer of 1995, Anders's wife Vilde Lockert joined him that autumn, and already with their first self-titled EP and the song "Secret Sky" they entered the charts in Norway. Since then Magenta released four albums and is about to release a new one, Songs For the Dead, for which they have returned to their roots of dismal dark and misty music with enchanting vocals. They started a crowdfounding campaign to make it happen and you can take a part over HERE. There was a lot of bad luck that happened to them and I can't imagine what Magenta could become without it, but of course, there's still time. Anders recently also started another band named Order to satisfy his need for playing and composing old-school doom/death/black metal. He was joined by his friends: Manheim (Mayhem), Messiah (Mayhem) and Rene Jansen (Cadaver). Order's debut is also expected in the near future. But why not leave a word to Anders Odden himself as he kindly answered to many curious questions that I needed to ask him.
T.V.: Hi Anders! There was a lot of silence about Magenta lately, but a couple of days ago you talked something about the new album on Facebook. Can you give me some further details?
Anders: The album was written in january 2013, but I have been too busy with Satyricon to complete it. It needs some new guitartakes and mix and it's done. It's dedicated to all the friends we have who have died and it's called Songs For The Dead.
T.V.: You mentioned that it will be much darker album than anything you've released so far with Magenta. Tell me where are the main diferences if compared with previous works?
Anders: I went back to the roots somehow. I do not use synths much this time. It's heavy guitars, doomy drums, lush vocals and the aim is to sound like a soundtrack to a movie. We never really had a direction or belong to a scene somehow. I think we do not fit in either the metal, goth or synth genre. We do not belong anywhere and that's cool. The only bad thing is that we never get intivted to play many places. We are most of all a studio project, but we do have a good live band if we want.
T.V.: I know that and it's true that the one can't simply put Magenta's music in one drawer. Still I find it amusing that only few people know about this band, at least those who I know. You never really worked much on a huge promotion of this band, weren't you?
Anders: Back in the 90s we had a huge hit in Norway with "Secret Sky", then in 2003 "All Over" went to number 2 in the Greek charts. We had a deal with CocaCola company worth 100.000,00€ to promote the song, but then a Greek publisher stole all our money and the band went cold for 5 years. We lost all we had worked for and had to start from the bottom again. Since then the record business disapeared and we had no one to work for us. Right now I do not care about the PR anymore as it doesn't interest me. I hate to seek attention for my music. I had an offer to sign away all the rights to this album to a well known label for 1000$ now. That's an insult and a joke to me. It cost me a lot of my time and private money to do Magenta, but I do not wanna just give it all away. We have no promotion, but I am still doing this interview. We have to relay on the word of mouth if people like what we do. I will never press up CDs or LPs - so our future will be digital albums I guess.
T.V.: Yes, I'm honored that you take some time for this interview, but man, holy fuck! Have you at least sued that Greek man who stole your money? Have you got anything back?
Anders: Thank you. No, all our money was stolen. Our manager went to a Greek court etc, but it's all just fucked up.
T.V.: That's just,... I don't know what to say. It's shit and I can imagine the anger and disappointment you went trough. But let us return to your new album. You started a crowdfunding campaign and I wonder if you've already had any success with it?
Anders: Hehehe, so far no. I think it's because no one knows about this band. It's funny how we have fans like Al Jourgensen, Niklas Kvarfort, Nattefrost and Maniac, but absolutely no Ministry, Shining, Carpathian Forest or Mayhem fans knows us. We do not belong anywhere. I guess that's why our fans are just the most out there people there is. Our previous release (Magenta aus Norwegen) was mixed by Tim Skold (Marilyn Manson, KMFDM, etc), but it had 0% PR and it's super underground. My conclusion is that we will just mix it ourself and release it digitally. Namedropping does not sell music is what I have learned.
T.V.: Huh, it seems so. When can we expect the first song/single to be revealed?
Anders: I am working on a mix of a song named "Descending" right now. It is one of the darkest songs on the album and could work as a teaser to what it's to come. I feel it need some more touch ups and then we will do a "release" on reverbnation/FB and see if people like it.
T.V.: Can't wait to hear that. One of my favorite Magenta's songs is a catchy/poppy "Unthouchable" from Arts And Accidents. Will there be anything like that on the new album?
Anders: Thank you for that! When that song failed to become a hit I lost interest in making very melodic stuff. It was mixed with way too low guitars to fit radio. However, we have one song named "The Pentagram" (incl Crowley samples from his poem, Pentagram) which is in that direction. I do not have any illusions of radioplay this time, so our album will be without poppy elements.
T.V.: Why did you make a decision to record the album in 13th Planet studios in El Paso TX (USA)? How it was working there?
Anders: We didn't record it there, just parts of it. We were invited to stay with the Jourgensens over Xmas and went there on vacation. When Mike Scaccia died 2 days after we arrived we became very close with the whole situation and I began working on ideas for songs as soon as we got home. The album was meant to be done there later and released on 13th Planet Records, but then Angie and Al divorced and that was the end of it for that. Just another bad thing happening for Magenta. We are cursed. That's why I never send proposals to work with us to agents, labels etc. I just remind myself that this project will never see any success other than the fact that people I respect like it. It's enough for me. I can live with that.
T.V.: Ok, I see. So, are you and your wife Vilde the only two involved in the compositional process, or are also the other two guys somehow?
Anders: Vilde and I are the only real memebers of Magenta. It's how Magenta works best. We have a bassplayer and a drummer for liveshows. Our last show was opening for Fields Of The Nephilim in Oslo back in april 2013. I wish we did more gigs, but we are too unknown and expensive at the same time hahaha.
T.V.: Will album be released as a self release or through any label?
Anders: We have released everything since 2003 ourself. I know too much about the record industry to even bother sending music to labels. I know they would have provided PR and maybe sell 100 CDs or something, but my motivation to do music is not success anymore. I just release music online, do interview like with you who show interest and that's it.
T.V.: That's understood, as you are in the music since late 80's if I'm not mistaken. Tell me, beside Magenta and being a bass player in Satyricon, do you have any other projects, side bands, etc...?
Anders: I have an old school black/death/doom band named Order. Check it out HERE.
T.V.: I will for sure check it out! You had on each Magenta release until now some special guest musicians, will there be anybody guesting on Songs For The Dead?
Anders: Yes. We always had guests on our albums. This time we have Cathrine Paulsen (ex-Trail Of Tears) on one of the songs. There might be others too, but she is on it for sure.
T.V.: Oh really, I love her voice! I was just searching any video clip of Magenta and couldn't find much... Have you ever filmed any?
Anders: She is on "Descending". Pretty rad. We have made a few videos yes. For the tracks "One Mind", "Darkest Dream part 2", plus some fan made videos.
Support Magenta in their crowdfunding campaign over at Kickstarter!
Magenta links: Facebook, Reverbnation, Wikipedia
Cadaver Links: Wikipedia
Order: Facebook